Because of the "Needs More RWD" Comment, Here is a Fun Fact!

"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips) 02/26/2017 at 10:24 • Filed to: Your Opinion is Wrong

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The owner of the Stealth Gray Focus RS traded his Viper for it. At the time, he had a Fiesta ST and the Viper. He enjoys mountain driving, and found that the Viper sucked at it, so he always took the FiST. He said, and I quote: “Everytime I drove the Viper, I knew I would have had more fun in the Fiesta.” So he traded it for a FWD biased hatch that he uses for his mountain runs, and dailies a FiST.

So there is some real world opinion from someone who did have a “better” RWD car.

Speaking of wrong wheel drive hatches, the FiST is getting Stratified soon.

My bird IS the word > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:30

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One data point does not a trend make.

Hate my fwd mini because even with “sports” suspension and expensive tires I am constantly fighting the damn thing for traction.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:33

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Doesn’t the viper handle like a sack of potatoes anyway?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/26/2017 at 10:35

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Not really. It handles like a lightweight, powerful RWD car. It’s fun, just when you are breaking 3 digits, which isn’t really doable on most tight mountain roads.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:36

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There are three digits now?!?!

Milky > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:36

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I do not like this man.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/26/2017 at 10:37

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Yes. As a Toyota owner, I understand that is a hard to believe figure, but it is achievable.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Milky 02/26/2017 at 10:39

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It just wasn’t fun on a good road. It required hitting triple digits to be nearly as much fun as his FiST on the same roads. And he does this every weekend, and has owned many cars. It was also broken all of the time. 5 minutes after he traded it in, it broke.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:42

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Just to play devil’s advocate, that could be just as much because of power management as drive wheels. It’s likely that said guy could have had a Miata and had the same realization.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:43

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I guess the Taco could go 100... Not a vehicle you want to do even the slightest turning of the wheel at high speeds.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Aaron M - MasoFiST 02/26/2017 at 10:43

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Nah, he likes Vipers. That’s why I brought this up. He drives a RWD Chrysler product.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:44

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I mean, I’d assume he’d like Vipers if he owned one. I’m saying if he had the Miata instead of the Fiesta, he’d have the same realization.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/26/2017 at 10:44

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My coworker got our work Taco over 100. It wasn’t that scary in the passenger seat.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Aaron M - MasoFiST 02/26/2017 at 10:46

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Nah. Miatas are great when they are super modded, but stock they are slow and rolly. I get them, but I get them as moddable platforms.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:48

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Shit, no thanks to that. Fastest car I’ve been was at 110mph in a 90s Accord, downhill.

Fastest I’ve ever driven was 90-something in the Celica. Damn thing feels like it’s lifting off.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:48

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I mean, the ND is faster to 60 than a Fiesta ST. But OK.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Aaron M - MasoFiST 02/26/2017 at 10:51

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I was more talking about older ones. But the Skyactive engine is dull. They are also about $5k more.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:52

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Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/26/2017 at 10:52

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I’ve maxed out a Trailblazer at 127 before.

DipodomysDeserti > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:53

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I have several RWD cars and have had FWD and AWD cars. I would never want my RWD cars to be FWD. Now, my Abarth was a lot more fun to drive than my wife’s BMW despite being slower, but it wasn’t because it was FWD. That made it less fun.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:53

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In the case of this example, the dude had a Viper. Somehow I don’t think the price matters. And we’re also pretty far afield here, the point is that both the FiST and the Miata are lightweight cars that are better on mountain roads than a Viper. Personal preference does not an FWD/RWD debate make.

Milky > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:54

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Ha, well it is a Chrysler product. That makes sense though, being able to ring a car completely out is fun. I am also no where near tight mountain roads.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 10:55

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Terrifying. I haven’t even got this Tercel past 75 yet.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Milky 02/26/2017 at 11:01

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The roads in that area are prime for a hatch. Extremely tight and no room for oversteer.

Jack Does Cars > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 11:17

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HOW? Mine would start to shake at 75.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jack Does Cars 02/26/2017 at 11:22

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Because it was decently maintained. It was super stable.

Jack Does Cars > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 11:25

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Ours was maintained as well. I actually miss it now.

BeaterGT > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 11:29

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Not only is this subjective and anecdotal, but you used the wrong “your” in the tag. Evidence dismissed!!!

I’d like to stop seeing people circle jerking the RS/ST twins so hard but hey, whatever floats thy boat.

Jayhawk Jake > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 11:30

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I can see where a Viper would be less fun in the mountains. Regardless, if FWD was so great why did he buy an AWD hatchback?

Jayhawk Jake > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 11:32

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That’s not because of drive layout though.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BeaterGT 02/26/2017 at 11:36

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What? Also, they are a circlejerk for a reason.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jayhawk Jake 02/26/2017 at 11:37

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He liked his FiST, so he wanted the older brother.

BeaterGT > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 11:45

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Nice edit bruh. RS/ST circle jerk is no better than RWD elitism.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BeaterGT 02/26/2017 at 11:51

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Except it is. It isn’t “Well you are wrong because it’s FWD” no matter what everyone who has an experience with something has said.

Jayhawk Jake > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 12:15

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Why not FoST if FWD is so much more fun

Axial > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 13:36

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So is RWD.

That argument is a double-edged sword, mate.

Discerning > Jayhawk Jake 02/26/2017 at 13:48

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Because it isn’t. You=right op=wrong

Vicente Esteve > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 15:28

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That sad moment when a Trailblazer has a higher to speed than my Golf.

Vicente Esteve > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 15:29

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I see that happening, so did the RS give the same effect on the guy as the FieSTa?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Vicente Esteve 02/26/2017 at 15:49

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Yeah, but not enough to get rid of his First.

BeaterGT > Axial 02/26/2017 at 20:08

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Don’t even bother :/

citizennick > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2017 at 20:09

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Here’s another real world opinion:

I had a highly modified Focus ST and it doesn’t hold a candle to how well my Camaro gets around the track with its stock suspension. Even with all the modifications done to the ST it was still twitchy around corners. Oversteer in FWD is a bitch, something easily manageable in a RWD.

That said, idk what kind of Viper your friend had but I’m pretty sure I would enjoy a Focus RS more than the gen 1-3 Vipers. They really aren’t that good at all.

TahoeSTi > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/01/2017 at 19:58

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The Viper was never made for short mountain courses. It would be a hand full.....I different kind of white knuckle fun.